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Symphony #8
1887/90 mixed versions Ed. Haas[1935]
Bruckner shortened the end of the first movement, reworked the Trio, and
made major changes in the Adagio and some alterations to the Finale.
See notes in Nowak below.
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Abendroth Leipzig Radio Orchestra live 9/28/49 Tahra CD 896 ................ 82:28 - 16:11 14:18 28:42 23:13
this transfer is pitched a semitone flat -> Tahra CD 114/5
Asahina New Japan Phil live 2/16/93 Fontec CD FOCD 9053/55 .......... 82:38 - 15:46 15:27 27:34 22:55
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic 8/23/76 Kobe Jean-Jean CD JJ008-019 (full set)
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic 10/24/80 Japanese Victor LP KVX 5529/30 .. 88:02 - 16:46 17:08 29:13 24:57
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic live 9/14/83 JVC CD VICC 40190-99 (full set)
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic live 7/24/94 Pony Canyon CD PCCL 00253 ....... 84:48 - 15:46 16:22 28:57 23:43
Pony Canyon CD PCCL-00476
Asahina Tokyo Sym Orch 11/13/93 Canyon Classics CD 362 .......... 85:05 - 15:56 16:22 27:53 24:53
Barbirolli Halle Orchestra live 5/20/70 Hunt & Arkadia CD 717.1 ......... 73:45 - 14:34 13:27 23:35 22:07
(not 7/20/70 as indicated by Hunt & Arkadia)
IMP BBC Radio Classics CD 15656 91922
Barenboim Berlin Philharmonic live 10/94 Teldec CD 94567 ................. 77:01 - 14:39 14:16 25:44 22:22
Barenboim Chicago Sym Orch 12/9/80 DG LP 2741 007 .................. 79:20 - 15:21 15:09 25:55 22:55
DG CD 429-025-2 (full set)
DG LP 2740 253 (full set)
van Beinum Concertgebouw Orch 6/6-9/55 Philips CD 4427302 .............. 72:28 - 14:05 13:56 23:23 20:47
Extra tymp roll in 1st subject exposition Musical Heritage Soc CD 515229F
Epic LP SC6011
Boulez Vienna Philharmonic live 11/11/96 DG CD 459 678-2 ................ 76:14 - 15:08 13:39 24:52 22:19
St. Florian Japanese DG CD POCG-10233
Dohnanyi Cleveland Orchestra 2/6-7/94 London/Decca CD 443 753-2 ....... 82:19 - 16:16 13:53 29:02 22:29
Musical Heritage Soc CD 524513K
Gielen Southwest German Radio Sym Orch 12/90 Intercord CD 860.914 ....... 83:48 - 16:24 17:07 26:41 23:36
Haitink Concertgebouw Orch 5/81 Philips CD 412 465-2 ............ 84:56 - 15:59 16:00 29:08 23:49
Philips CD 6725014
Philips LP 6769 080
Philips Dutch Masters CD 462 943-2
Haitink Concertgebouw Orch 9/69 Philips LP 6700 020 & full set .. 73:31 - 13:57 13:33 25:17 20:44
date misprinted as 1960 Philips CD 442 040-2 (full set)
Haitink Vienna Philharmonic 1/95 Philips CD 446 659-2 ............ 83:16 - 16:48 15:04 27:26 23:47
Horenstein London Symphony Orch live 9/10/70 Intaglio CD INCD 7272 .......... 81:28 - 15:41 14:47 25:30 25:30
Royal Albert Hall, London Music & Arts CD 785
BBC Legends CD BBCL 40172
Jarvi London Philharmonic 11/19/86 Chandos CD 8843/4 ............... 84:18 - 16:50 15:16 28:12 23:51
Chandos CD 7080
Jochum Hamburg Phil State Orch 1/26-28,31/49 & 2/3-4/49 ................. 82:39 - 15:06 13:56 30:36 23:01
mixed score DG CD 449 758-2
DGG LP 18051-2
American Decca LP DX-109
Gramophone 78s 69545/55
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic 5/23-25/57 EMI LP 62170 .................... 86:59 - 17:05 16:04 27:31 26:17
Angel LP 3576B
EMI CD 569092-2
EMI CD 66109
EMI CD 63469
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic 1&4/75 DG CD 439 969-2 ................. 82:06 - 16:47 15:05 26:07 24:07
DG CD 419 196
DG LP 2707 085
DG CD 429-648-2GSE9 (full set)
DG LP 2740264 (full set)
Musical Heritage Soc CD 514557A
Karajan Vienna Philharmonic London 1965 Nuova Era CD NE2251/2 ........... 84:17 - 16:26 15:07 26:45 25:49
Karajan Vienna Philharmonic 11/88 DG CD 427 611-2 ................. 82:49 - 16:56 16:25 25:13 23:59
Karajan Vienna Philharmonic Sony VHS LC-751B ................ 84:28 - 17:38 16:38 25:57 24:15
Sony LD 46403
Karajan Vienna Philharmonic live St.Florian 1979 DG VHS 072-263-3 ........ 84:35 - 16:53 15:38 26:29 25:35
DG LD 072-236-1
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic live 3/21/67 Arkadia CD 705.2 ................ 84:44 - 16:31 15:40 26:59 25:34
Hunt CD 705
Karajan Preussische Staatskapelle Berlin 1944 Koch/Schwann CD 314482 H1 .. --:-- - --:-- 16:10 27:21 27:34
only movements 2, 3 (mono 6/28/44 ) & 4 (stereo 9/29/44)
Iron Needle CD IN1407
Magic Master CD 37038
finale only -> Hunt CD 705
Kegel Leipzig Radio Sym Orch 1990 Pilz CD 44 2063-2 ............... 78:52 - 15:54 14:49 24:03 23:50
Kempe Zurich Tonhalle Orch (c)1973 Tudor LP X-7656/57
Ex Libris LP 16 607
Kubelik Bavarian Radio Sym Orch live 11/8/63 Orfeo CD 203891 mono ........ 73:53 - 14:39 14:24 22:36 22:14
Masur Leipzig Gewandhaus 6/19-23/78 Eurodisc CD 69227 (full set) .... 81:53 - 16:56 14:18 26:26 24:13
Eurodisc LP 300 639 440
Eurodisc LP 301 587-467 full set
Denon CD COCO80100 full set
Mravinsky Leningrad Philharmonic 6/59 BMG/Melodiya CD 74321 29402 2 ... 73:42 - 15:02 13:12 23:06 22:21
Melodiya LP MK 210B
BMG/Melodiya CD 29459
RCA LP 29404
Noguchi Furtwangler Institute Phil Orch Tokyo CD WCD120 .................. 77:22 - 15:27 15:20 24:15 22:20
live 1998 - cuts and reorchestration made in accordance with 1892 Schalk version
Paita Philharmonic Sym Orch 5/82 Lodia CD 783/4 .................. 73:41 - 13:08 13:36 25:55 21:02
Lodia LP 783/4 (same # as CD)
Rogner RSO Berlin (East) 5/85 Berlin Classics CD 0031182BC .... 75:01 - 12:34 13:19 26:21 22:45
Rozhdestvensky USSR Min of Culture Sym Orch 4/8/84 Russian Revelation CD 10076 .. 79:00 - 14:40 14:19 26:39 23:19
Rozhdestvensky USSR Ministry of Culture SO 1985 JapanBMG/Melodiya CD BVCX38013/14 84:38 - 16:24 13:50 28:23 25:47
Schuricht Vienna Philharmonic 12/12/63 EMI CD 67279 .................... 71:16 - 15:32 14:00 21:44 19:43
4mm cut in Finale TRSRS-020
CDB 4788372
Angel LP B3656
Japan EMI CD TOCE-8126
Suitner Staatskapelle Berlin 12/86,1/87 Berlin Classic CD 116326 ........ 80:22 - 15:36 14:50 26:55 23:00
Svetlanov USSR Academic Sym Orch 1981 Olympia CD 238 .................. 78:40 - 18:05 14:14 23:49 22:26
same as USSR Grand Grand Radio Sym Orch Melodiya CD 238
Wand Berlin Philharmonic live 9/19/96 Sardana Records CD-100
Wand Bavarian Radio Sym Orch Bells of St.Florian CD AB6/7
Wand Cologne Guerzenich Orch (c)1975 BASF LP DE221583 ................ 82:00 - 15:45 16:00 26:15 24:00
Wand Kolner Rundfunks Orch 5/28/79 & 6/2/79 BMG/RCA CD 60083 &full set. 81:47 - 15:44 15:04 26:10 24:24
EMI CDC 7 47750 2 & full set
EMI CD 747749-8
Wand NDR-Sinfonieorchester EMI CD 7 49718 2 ......... 86:21 - 16:50 15:37 28:29 25:15
live 8/22-23/87 Lubeck BMG/RCA CD 60364
Wand NDR-Sinfonieorchester RCA/BMG CD 09026 68047-2 ... 87:52 - 17:16 16:05 28:45 25:46
live 12/7/93 Hamburg
Symphony #8
1890 version by Bruckner and Josef Schalk Ed. Nowak[1955]
Includes the re-writing of the first movement and Trio, and changes in Adagio (as in Haas above).
Of all the Bruckner symphonies, the 8th has the largest differences between Haas and Nowak.
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Albrecht Czech Philharmonic 4/11/94 Canyon Classics CD 00227 ........ 82:07 - 16:39 13:41 27:07 24:40
Canyon Classics CD EC 3686-2
Bohm Bavarian Radio Sym Orch live 1971 Originals CD 817 ............... 71:56 - 13:40 13:10 24:29 20:37
finale is cut
Bohm Vienna Philharmonic 2/76 DG LP 2709-068 .................. 79:38 - 14:46 14:19 27:42 22:51
contains one Haas passage in Finale DG CD 463081-2 ...................80:01 - 14:51 14:23 27:47 23:00
DG France 463 550-2
Celibidache Munich Philharmonic live 10/20/90 Tokyo Sony VHS C-898 ......... 100:05 - 21:09 16:57 32:13 29:46
Sony VHS 48317
Sony LD SLV48317
Celibidache Munich Philharmonic live 9/12-13/93 EMI CD 5566962 .............. 104:13 - 20:56 16:05 35:04 32:08
Celibidache Munich Philharmonic live 1993 Lisbon Audior CD AUD 7001-2
Celibidache Stuttgart Radio Sym Orch live 11/13/77 Exclusive CD 92T44/46 ..... 85:02 - 16:12 14:03 28:20 26:27
Celibidache Stuttgart Radio Sym Orch live 11/23/76 DG CD 445 471-2 ........... 83:20 - 16:16 13:52 27:08 26:04
Eichhorn Bruckner Orch Linz 7/4/91 Camerata CD 225 ................. 77:27 - 15:51 14:55 24:42 21:46
Giulini Vienna Philharmonic 5/30/84 DG CD 415 124-2 ................. 87:32 - 17:07 16:25 29:24 24:36
DG CD 445 529
Giulini World Philharmonic Orch live 1985 Image Entertainment DVD ID5434CL 83:08 - 16:43 16:27 26:04 23:54
in Stockholm as part of Nobel Peace Prize ceremony
Hofmann Bruckner Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart CD issued by orchestra ...... 83:03 - 15:36 15:42 26:20 26:25
live 3/22/1999 Stuttgart
Horenstein Vienna Pro Music Orch 1955 Vox CD 5504 ..................... 76:41 - 13:40 14:59 25:28 22:33
Turnabout LP 65090/91
Jochum Berlin Philharmonic 1/64 DG LP 138 918/19 ................ 74:16 - 13:36 13:54 26:35 19:49
DG LP 2740-136 (full set)
DG CD 431 163-2
DG CD 429 079-2 (full set)
Jochum Concertgebouw Orch live 9/26/84 Tahra CD 169 & full set ......... 79:22 - 14:53 14:19 27:53 22:10
Tahra CD 171/174
Jochum Staatskapelle Dresden 11/7/76 EMI CD CZS 7 62935 2 (full set) . 76:07 - 13:52 13:55 27:20 20:46
Eterna LP 8 27 681-682
Angel LP SB 3893
Klemperer Cologne Radio Sym Orch live 6/7/57 Arkadia CD 704.1 .............. 71:53 - 14:12 14:25 22:32 20:44
(no cuts) Frequenz CD 051-054
Hunt CD 704
Movimento Musica LP 02.023
Klemperer New Philharmonia Orch 10,11/70 EMI CD ZDMB 63835 ............... 84:12 - 17:56 19:53 26:57 19:26
cuts from 211 to 387, and from 582 to 647 in Finale HMV LP ASD 2943/4
HMV LP SLS 872
Angel LP SB 3799
Lopez-Cobos Cincinnati Sym Orch 3/14-15/93 Telarc CD 80343 ................. 76:17 - 15:17 13:51 24:38 22:19
2 passages in Finale taken either from Haas or Nowak 1887
Maazel Berlin Philharmonic 6/89 EMI CD 49990-2 .................. 80:40 - 16:19 14:18 26:12 23:39
EMI CDR 7243 5 69796 2 8 ........ 79:32 - 16:05 14:09 25:53 23:24
Mehta Israel Philharmonic 2/89 Sony CD 45864 ................... 80:52 - 15:57 14:11 25:37 22:07
Mehta Israel Philharmonic 1987 DVD
Mehta Los Angeles Philharmonic 4/74 London/Decca LP CSA 2237 ........ 78:51 - 14:57 14:27 27:54 21:33
Matacic NHK Sym Orch live 3/7/84 Denon CD 35CO-1001 .............. 74:13 - 13:55 14:38 25:18 20:12
Nanut Ljubljana Symphony Orch 1989 Stradivari CD SCD-6059 .......... 76:02 - 15:30 14:24 25:27 20:31
Rogg Organ transcription by Rogg BIS CD 946 ...................... 68:27 - 14:55 14:26 19:11 19:31
version of mixed sources but basically 1890, also cuts in the Finale
Sinopoli Staatskapelle Dresden 12/94 DG CD 447 744-2 ................. 85:51 - 17:19 15:19 27:53 25:20
Skrowaczewski Saarbrucken Radio Sym Orch live 10/8-9/93 Arte Nova CD 34016 2 ... 82:28 - 15:30 16:02 28:14 22:23
Solti Chicago Sym Orch live 11/90 London/Decca CD 4302282 &full set 73:59 - 15:00 14:25 24:09 20:09
Leningrad
Solti Vienna Philharmonic 11&12/66 London/Decca LP CSA 2219 ........ 75:16 - 15:10 14:32 24:49 20:45
London/Decca LP 1326/38
London/Decca CD 448 124-2
Decca Japan CD POCL-9565
London/Decca CD 440 162-2
Schuricht NDR Sym Orch 1960 live Originals CD 837 ................ 79:13 - 16:53 14:10 27:05 21:05
finale is cut
Szell Cleveland Orch 10/69 Sony CD SB2K 53519 .............. 81:53 - 14:31 16:14 29:04 22:04
Columbia LP M2 30070
Japanese Sony CD 8197-8
Szell Cleveland Orch live 1969 Artists CD FED 072 .............. 77:42 - 14:27 16:19 25:40 21:20
Tennstedt Berlin Philharmonic live 11/21/81 Sardana Records CD-156/7
Tennstedt London Philharmonic 9/26/82 EMI LP SLS 5290 ................. 75:33 - 14:16 14:01 26:02 21:03
EMI CD 64849
Tennstedt North German Radio Orch live Halloo CD HAL 21/2
Tsutsumi Shunyukai Sym Orch live 9/16/95 Shunyukai(?) CD 19950916
Uno Shinsei Nihon Sym Orch 4/9/92 Canyon Classics CD .............. 81:59 - 16:58 15:41 23:37 25:34
Symphony #8
1892 prepared by Bruckner and Schalk with further revisions by Schalk
than those noted in above. Ed. Lienau[1892]
In addition to additional cuts there are many other changes of dynamics,
phrasing, and orchestration.
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Furtwangler Vienna Philharmonic live 4/10/54 Hunt CD WFE 355 ................. 79:48 - 16:21 14:23 27:07 21:57
Emblem CD EF 4005/6
Fonit Cetra CD FE-17
Klemperer Berlin State Opera Orch 1924 Polydor 78s 69764-67 ............ --:-- - --:-- 26:38 --:-- --:--
Adagio only Archiphon CD ARC-121/25
Polydor 78s 66325-28
Symposium CD SYMCD 1241
Knappertsbusch Bavarian State Orch 12/5/55 Music & Arts CD 266 ............. 69:41 - 12:44 13:16 22:14 21:27
Knappertsbusch Berlin Philharmonic live 1/7-8/51 Music & Arts CD 856 ............ 78:30 - 14:52 13:53 26:55 22:31
Berlin Japanese Seven Seas CD KICC2027
Tahra CD 207/8
erroneously dated as 1/29/52 -> Arkadia/Hunt CD 711 ............. 78:34 - 14:55 13:57 26:58 22:44
Music & Arts CD 1028
Greenhill CD GH 0006/7
Knappertsbusch Munich Philharmonic 1/63 studio Music Guild LP MS-6208 .......... 85:39 - 15:56 15:59 27:40 26:02
Millenium Classics CD MCAD2-80089
MCA CD 99825(stereo chans reversed)
Westminster LP WST 235(stereo chans reversed)
Japanese Westminster CD
World Record Club LP SCM 71-2
Vega LP C 30 A 441-2
CBS LP 72486-7
Knappertsbusch Munich Philharmonic 1/24/63 live Refrain DR 910005-2
Knappertsbusch Vienna Philharmonic 10/29/61 live Discocorp LP IGI-375 ........... 82:37 - 15:31 14:48 26:29 25:49
Melodram CD GM40008 (set)
Koussevitzky Boston Symphony live 12/30/47 AS Disc CD 560 .................. 50:40 - 11:55 11:20 16:05 11:20
shortened by Koussevitzky to fit the one-hour broadcast time.
Walter New York Philharmonic 1/26/41 Discocorp LP BWS-808 ............ 74:20 - 15:25 14:50 23:20 20:45
Walter HP23
Iron Needle CD 1353/4
Symphony #8
Edition prepared by Furtwangler based on Haas & earlier revisions.
Does not contain the passage Haas added to the Adagio.
Contains aspects of the 1892 edition.
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Furtwangler Berlin Philharmonic live 3/14/49 Toshiba CD TOCE 8514 ............ 76:42 - 15:38 14:10 24:43 22:00
live performance with no audience Toshiba CD CE28 5590-1
not as much coughing as 3/15/49 Toshiba CD TOCE 6521-22
Toshiba CD 3011
Limited Edition SH 854
Testament CD SBT1143
Dante Lys CD 244
Electrola LP STE 91375-91378
Electrola LP SMVP 8057-8058
Pathe FALP 850-851
EMI LP 1C 147 29231-29232
Angel LP (Japan) AA 9133-9134
Angel LP (Japan) AA 8322-8323
Toshiba LP WF 60026-60027
Palladio/Enterprise CD PD 4135
Furtwangler Berlin Philharmonic live 3/15/49 Music & Arts CD 624 ............. 76:06 - 15:33 13:41 24:57 21:55
without the passage Haas added Hunt CD WFE 356.1
to the Adagio plus a few Seven Seas CD KICC 2352
aspects of the 1892 edition. Nippon Columbia LP OS 7091-7092
Lots of coughing Palladio PD 4135
German Furtwangler Soc LP MMS9103
Discocorp LP RR-457
EMI CD CHS5 66210-2
Dante Lys CD 245
Evangel CD FRL 1001
Rococo LP 2032
Furtwangler Vienna Philharmonic live 10/17/44 Music&Arts CD 764[sharp w/flutter].76:36 - 15:04 14:02 25:00 22:30
DG CD 431878 [sharp w/flutter]
Grammofono CD GRM 78696/7 [sharp w/flutter]
Japanese EMI CE285757/58 [on pitch & steady]
Originals CD 854
DG 445 415-2 [off pitch]
DG (Japan) CD POCG 2346[sharp w/flutter]
DG (Japan) CD POCG 9492[sharp w/flutter]
LYS CD 106-107 [off pitch]
Vox LP VSP514
Unicorn LP UNI 109-110
Nippon Columbia LP DXM 110-111
DG LP 2740 201
Toshiba LP WF 60054-60055
DG (Japan) CD 3750
Magic Talent CD 48067
Symphony #8
undetermined at this time
Jochum Bamberg Sym Orch 6/82 ORF LP L2955 .................... 82:54 - 15:32 14:42 29:35 23:05
Kegel Leipzig Radio Sym Orch ODE Classics CD ODCLBOX3
Mandeal Cluj-Napoca Sym Orch 6/87 Electrecord LP ST-ECE 03257/58
Wallberg Duisburg Sym Orch 5/96 Confido CD DSL01/02 ............. --:-- - 15:31 15:48 29:02 --:--
no Finale, with rehearsal of Adagio
Wallberg Vienna National Orch c.1968 Concert Hall LP SMS2604
(aka Vienna Sym Orch) Guilde Internationale LP 2604
Symphony #9
1894 Original version (3 movts) Ed. Orel[1932] (virtually identical to Nowak)
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Albrecht Czech Philharmonic (Nowak ?) 1/31/94 Canyon Classics CD 3690 ..... 60:30 - 25:50 9:50 24:44 --:--
Furtwangler Berlin Philharmonic live 10/7/44 Music & Arts CD 730 ............. 57:55 - 23:22 9:61 25:06 --:--
Berlin, Beethovensaal DG CD 445 4182
DG CD 445 415-2
DG (Japan) CD POCG 2347
DG (Japan) CD POCG 9491
Enterprise CD 53004
Iron Needle CD 1333
Dante LYS CD 110
DG LP 18 854
Heliodor LP 2548 701 (fake stereo)
Grammofono CD GRM 78696/7
Enterprise Sirio CD 53004
Grammofono CD AB78831
DG LP KL 27-31
Sirio CD SO 5300-4
DG LP 88 019
DG LP 2730 005
DG LP 2740 201
Eterna LP 825 380
DG CD (Japan) 3750
Hausegger Munich Philharmonic 4/38 Preiser CD 90148 ................ 55:05 - 23:30 8:57 22:32 --:--
EMI CD CHS5 66210-2
HMV 78s DB 4515-21
Victor 78s M627
Past Masters LP 13
Kabasta Munich Philharmonic live 1943 Music & Arts CD 969 ............. 53:08 - 21:49 8:47 22:32 --:--
LYS CD 419-424
Klemperer New York Philharmonic 10/14/34 NYPO Archive CD NYP 9701-9711 ... 55:22 - 22:13 9:41 23:07 --:--
live US premiere of the original edition
Schuricht Berlin Municipal Orch 7/13,14/43 Shinseido CD SGR-6006/7 ......... 58:17 - 24:06 11:08 23:00 --:--
erroneously dated 1939 Dante Lys CD 094
Iron Needle CD 1396
Japanese DG CD POCG6068
Schuricht Reichssender Orch Berlin live 1937 Archiphon CD 32/3 ............. --:-- - 22:15 8:13 --:-- --:--
mvts 1 & 2 only (breaks off during reprise of Scherzo)
Schuricht Stuttgart Radio Sym Orch broadcast 11/2/51
Walter Columbia Sym Orch 11/16,18/59 Columbia LP Y35220 .............. 58:42 - 23:53 11:32 23:17 --:--
Columbia LP MS 6171
Sony CD MBK 44825
Sony CD 64483
Sony CD MK 42037
Columbia LP MP39129
Columbia LP D4S 742
CBS LP SBRG 72095
Walter New York Philharmonic 7/2/53 Paladio CD 4209 ................. 50:37 - 20:32 10:09 19:46 --:--
Nuova Era CD 2225
Walter Vienna Philharmonic, live Salzburg 8/20/53 AS Disc NAS 2402
Movimento Musica LP 01.053
Movimento Musica CD 1053
Sterling Classical CD SOCD1053
Symphony #9
1894 Original version (3 movts) Ed. Nowak[1951] (virtually identical to Orel)
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Abendroth Leipzig Radio Orch (Orel?) 10/29/51 Berlin Classics CD 012050-2 .. 54:07 - 23:24 8:58 21:34 --:--
Berlin Classics CD 91112-BC
Deutsche Schallplatten CD VI-TKCC-15067
Asahina New Japan Phil 6/4/80 JVC CD VICC 40190-99 (full set)
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic 4/22/76 Kobe Jean-Jean CD JJ008-019 (full set)
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic 6/4/80 JVC LP 5531/2 ................... 66:08 - 27:18 10:40 28:10 --:--
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic 4/23/95 Pony Canyon CD PCCL-00341 ....... 63:20 - 26:50 11:41 24:32 --:--
Pony Canyon CD PCCL-00477
Asahina Tokyo Metrop. Sym Orch live 9/10/93 Fontec CD FOCD 3290 .......... 64:04 - 26:21 11:39 25:49 --:--
Asahina Tokyo Symphony Orch live 3/16/91 Pony Canyon CD PCCL 00268 ....... 59:30 - 25:34 11:08 22:48 --:--
Pony Canyon CD 126
Asahina Tokyo Symphony Orch 4/13/96 Pony Canyon CD 362 .............. 66:28 - 28:01 11:52 26:15 --:--
Barbirolli Halle Orchestra live Proms 7/29/66 BBC Legends CD BBCL 40342
Barenboim Berlin Philharmonic live 10/90 Teldec CD 9031-72140-2 .......... 63:29 - 23:23 10:29 27:17 --:--
Barenboim Chicago Symphony Orch 5/75 DG LP 2 530 639 ................. 60:36 - 24:06 11:05 25:25 --:--
DG CD 429-025-2(full set)
DG LP 2740 253 (full set)
van Beinum Concertgebouw Orch 9/17-19/56 Philips CD 4427312 .............. 58:58 - 22:26 9:53 26:28 --:--
Musical Heritage Society CD 515316T
Fontana 6540-008
Epic LP LC 3401
van Beinum Concertgebouw Orch Radio Netherlands 10" LP 99098/9. --:-- - --:-- --:-- 29:20 --:--
3rd mvt only
Bernstein New York Philharmonic 2/4/69 Sony CD 47542 ................... 61:26 - 25:02 11:35 24:36 --:--
Columbia LP M30828
Bernstein Vienna Philharmonic 2/90&3/90 DG CD 435 350-2 ................. 66:08 - 26:58 12:14 26:56 --:--
Bernstein Vienna Philharmonic live Unitel 35mm
Blomstedt Leipzig Gewandhaus Orch 1/6,8/95 Decca CD 458 964-2 .............. 60:10 - 24:45 10:07 25:18 --:--
Cantieri South German Philharmonic (c)1992 Point Classics CD 2650102 ....... 58:50 - 24:25 9:37 24:37 --:--
some pressings missing mvt I, order of mvts is III, II, III
Celibidache Munich Philharmonic 10/8/81 Exclusive CD 92T23/24 ........... 66:36 - 27:27 12:12 26:52 --:--
Audior CD 520/1
Celibidache Munich Philharmonic live 9/10/95 EMI CD 5566992 .................. 76:50 - 32:26 13:47 30:37 --:--
with rehearsal from 9/4-7/95
Celibidache RAI Turin Orchestra live 5/2/69 Classica Musica CD CLDSMH 34045 . 58:47 - 24:14 11:27 23:06 --:--
Hunt/Arkadia CD 4451
Dino Classics (Fonit Cetra) CD 9075 042
Celibidache Sudfunk Sym Orch Stuttgart 1961 Rococo LP 2130 .................. 59:04 - 24:15 11:00 23:47 --:--
Arlecchino CD 14
Celibidache Stuttgart Radio Sym Orch live 4/5/74 DG CD 445 471-2 ............. 59:18 - 24:24 11:11 23:43 --:--
Chailly Royal Concertgebouw Orch 6/96 London/Decca CD 455506 .......... 62:47 - 24:44 10:41 27:22 --:--
Delman Orchestra Sinfonica dell'Emilia Romagna "Arturo Toscanini" ....... 59:41 - 27:21 11:20 20:58 --:--
4/94 Ermitage CD ERM 423
Dohnanyi Cleveland Orch 10/88 London/Decca CD 425405-2 ........ 57:57 - 22:06 9:46 25:59 --:--
Gielen Southwest German Radio Sym Orch Intercord CD 860.926 ............ 58:31 - 22:27 11:19 24:45 --:--
EMI CD 60110-2
EMI CD 71686-2
Giulini Chicago Symphony Orch 12/2/76 EMI CDM 5 65177 2 ............... 62:43 - 25:06 10:58 26:39 --:--
EMI CD 47637
Angel LP S-37287
HMV LP ASD 3382
Giulini Vienna Philharmonic live 6/88 DG CD 427 345 ................... 68:30 - 28:02 10:39 29:30 --:--
Guller Junge Suddeutsch Phil live 9/24/89 Digital Meisterwerks CD 71814 . 67:45 - 27:55 11:45 28:05 --:--
Haenchen Netherlands Philharmonic live 2/90 Laserlight CD 14138 ........... 58:13 - 24:30 10:00 23:43 --:--
Haitink Concertgebouw Orch 12/65 Philips 6725014 ................. 59:24 - 23:16 11:15 24:53 --:--
Philips LP PHS 900-162 & set
Philips CD 442 040-2 (full set)
Haitink Concertgebouw Orch 11/12/81 Philips CD 410039 ............... 62:30 - 25:11 10:51 26:28 --:--
Horenstein BBC Northern Sym Orch live 12/2/70 Music & Arts CD 781 ........... 59:46 - 24:51 10:30 24:25 --:--
Intaglio CD 7091
BBC Legends CD BBCL 40172
Horenstein Pro Musica Sym, Vienna (c)1953 Vox Legends CDX25508 ............ 52:28 - 21:40 9:52 20:50 --:--
(aka Vienna Sym Orch) Turnabout LP TV 34356
Vox LP PL8040
Inbal Orch of Radio Frankfurt 9/86&10/87 Teldec CD 35785 ............... 57:10 - 23:05 10:24 23:41 --:--
Teldec CD 420324
Teldec CD 243175
Jochum Bavarian Radio Sym Orch 11/22-23,27-28/54 DG CD 449 758-2 ....... 59:02 - 22:08 9:45 27:09 --:--
US Decca LP DX 139
DGG LP LPM 18247-8
Heliodor LP H25007
Jochum Berlin Philharmonic 12/5/64 DG CD 429 514-2 ................. 60:47 - 23:12 9:44 27:40 --:--
DG CD 3443 126-2GCL
DG CD 429 079-2 (full set)
DG LP 2740-136 (full set)
Jochum Munich Philharmonic live 1987 Meteor CD MCD 058 E ............. 62:38 - 24:12 10:53 27:33 --:--
Jochum's last performance with this orchestra
Jochum Staatskapelle Dresden 1/16/78 EMI CD 67768 .................... 60:43 - 22:58 9:49 27:39 --:--
EMI CD CZS 7 62935 2 (full set)
Seraphim CD CES568527 2
EMI LP S-37700
Encore CD E7677682
Jochum, Georg RIAS Orch Berlin 3/9/54 Tahra CD 170 & full set ......... 51:27 - 19:57 10:03 21:17 --:--
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic 3/19/66 DG LP 139 011 ................... 59:55 - 24:45 9:58 25:12 --:--
DG LP 2530 828
DG CD 421 904
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic live 1/22/70 Arkadia & Hunt CD 722 ........... 61:08 - 24:31 10:19 26:18 --:--
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic 9/16/75 DG CD 419-083-2 ................. 61:02 - 24:42 10:34 25:46 --:--
DG CD 435 326
DG LP 2530 828
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic 1985 live Sony VHS SHV 46381 .............. 59:18 - 24:13 10:36 24:29 --:--
Sony LD 46381
Karajan Vienna Philharmonic live 7/25/76 DG CD 435 326 ................... 59:43 - 24:36 10:46 24:19 --:--
Salzburg DG CD 435321-2
DG Laserdisc 072-237-1GH
DG VHS 072-237-3
Kegel Leipzig Radio Sym Orch ODE Classics CD ODCLBOX3
Keilberth Hamburg State Orch 10/31 - 11/3/56 Telefunken LP GT 9180 ......... 56:43 - 23:16 10:55 22:32 --:--
Telefunken LP TCS 18043(in US)
Telefunken LP 6.41149 AH
Teldec CD 8.44068
Teldec 242463
Japanese Teldec WPCs-6053
Klee BBC Philharmonic live 7/4/91 BBC Magazine Cover CD 102 ....... 66:51 - 25:23 11:12 30:16 --:--
Klemperer New Philharmonia Orch 2/21/70 Angel LP S-36873 ................ 65:18 - 26:43 11:23 27:12 --:--
EMI CD 79885-2
Electrola/EMI LP 360
Kubelik Berlin Philharmonic live 8/16/80 Bells of St. Florian CD AB3 ..... 62:59 - 25:25 10:28 26:56 --:--
Sardana Records CD-171
Leinsdorf Frankfurt Radio Orch live 1972 Joy Classics CD-9005 ............ 54:21 - 21:28 9:53 23:00 --:--
Lopez-Cobos Cincinnati Sym Orch 1/27/92 Telarc CD 80299 ................. 62:32 - 25:18 12:03 24:59 --:--
Mandeal Cluj-Napoca Sym Orch 7/88 Electrecord LP ST-ECE 03524/25/26
Masur Leipzig Gewandhaus Orch 4/28-30/75 RCA CD 29247-2 ................ 54:10 - 21:50 10:30 21:50 --:--
RCA CD 74321 30368-2
Eurodisc CD 69227 (full set)
Eurodisc LP 301 587-467(full set)
Eurodisc LP SQ 27914KK
Denon CD COCO80100 full set
Matacic Czech Philharmonic live 12/4-5/80 Supraphon CD 110654-2 .......... 59:50 - 23:32 10:08 26:10 --:--
Supraphon CD 7420
Matacic Vienna Symphony Orch 3/83 Amadeo LP & CD 410936 ........... 59:19 - 24:21 10:10 24:48 --:--
Mehta Vienna Philharmonic 5/3-7/65 London LP CS 6462 ............... 63:31 - 25:52 10:37 27:02 --:--
London LP 1326/38
Belart CD 461357
Decca Japan CD POCL-4326 ........ 63;17 - 25:28 10:41 27:07 --:--
London/Decca CD 458 056-2
Mravinsky Leningrad Philharmonic live 1/30/80 BMG/Melodiya CD 25189 ........ 59:51 - 23:24 10:03 26:18 --:--
BMG/Melodiya CD 74321 251932 .... 59:21 - 23:25 10:04 25:47 --:--
Olympia CD OCD 220
ZYX Melodiya CD 46011
Melodiya Japan JVC LP VIC 9043/4
Mravinsky Leningrad Philharmonic live 12/29/82 Icone CD ICN 9412-2 ......... 59:37 - 23:29 10:08 26:00 --:--
Mravinsky Leningrad Philharmonic Leningrad Masters CD 1303
Russian Legacy CD RL-8424
Noguchi Furtwangler Institute Phil Orch Tokyo CD WCD104 .................. 63:05 - 25:35 12:03 25:28 --:--
live 1995
Renz Budapest Philharmonic 10/89 Ondone CD 764-2 ................. 66:53 - 28:23 9:27 28:56 --:--
Rogner Berlin Radio Sym Orch 2/12/83 Deutsche Schallplaten CD 32TC36 . 53:57 - 22:20 10:15 21:22 --:--
Deutsche Schallplaten LP 5172
Eterna LP
Rozhdestvensky Moscow Large Radio Sym Orch 5/70 Melodiya LP 2875-8 .............. 57:50 - 23:10 11:51 22:49 --:--
Eurodisc LP 80890
ABC/Westminster LP WG 8347
Chant du Monde LP LDX 78534
Rozhdestvensky USSR Ministry of Culture Sym Orch 1988 Melodiya LP C10 26301000 .. 58:09 - 24:19 11:05 22:45 --:--
JapanBMG Melodiya CD BVCX38015/16 58:13 - 24:16 11:04 22:36 --:--
Saraste Finnish Radio Sym Orch Finnish Broadcasting Co.CD FT-9907 .. 56:57 - 23:43 10:45 21:40 --:--
live 8/30/99 Finlandia Hall
Sawallisch Bavarian State Orch 12/24/84 Orfeo CD 160 851 ................ 55:36 - 22:16 9:49 23:31 --:--
Schuricht Bavarian Radio Sym Orch live 3/8/63 Disques Refrain DR 930055 .... 56:19 - 23:40 10:24 22:14 --:--
Chaconne CHCD-1009
Schuricht Vienna Philharmonic 11/22/61 EMI CD 67279 .................... 56:22 - 25:27 10:23 20:14 --:--
Seraphim LP S 60047
Odeon LP ALP 1929/ASD 493
Segal Southwest German Radio Sym Orch VMK and Cos Co (CD?)
Sinopoli Staatskapelle Dresden 3/97 DG CD 457587-2 .................. 61:51 - 25:34 10:07 26:10 --:--
Skrowaczewski Minnesota Orchestra 11/18/96 Reference Recordings CD RR81CD .. 59:37 - 22:54 10:14 26:22 --:--
Solti Chicago Symphony Orch 9&10/85 London/Decca CD 417295-2 &full set . 61:00 - 23:37 10:22 26:56 --:--
Swarowsky Bamberg Symphony Orch (c)1980 Vienna Masters CD ............... 58:43
Euphoria LP 2103
Swarowsky South German Philharmonic Highland Music (?)
Talmi Oslo Philharmonic 8/28-30/85 Chandos CD 8860 ................. 59:58 - 23:38 10:53 25:18 --:--
Chandos CD 7051-2
Tate Rotterdam Philharmonic 5/90 EMI CD 54088 .................... 65:19 - 26:46 10:56 27:28 --:--
EMI CD 724356979727
Tintner Royal Scottish National Orch 5/8-9/97 Naxos CD 8.554268 .......... 60:00 - 25:44 9:55 24:14 --:--
Wakasugi Saarbrucken Radio Sym Orch 12/19-21/94 Arte Nova CD 340442 ....... 61:16 - 24:52 11:03 25:12 --:--
Wallberg Vienna National Orch (c)1968 Concert Hall LP SMSC2541
(aka Vienna Sym Orch) Guilde Internationale LP 2541
Wand Berlin Philharmonic live 9/18,20/98 BMG/RCA CD 74321 63244 2 ..... 61:59 - 26:12 10:35 25:12 --:--
Wand Berlin Radio Sym Orch live 1993 Halloo CD HAL-17/18
Wand Kolner Rundfunks Orch 6/10/79 BMG/RCA CD 60084 & full set ..... 58:07 - 24:01 10:26 23:40 --:--
EMI CDC 7 47751 2 & full set
Wand Munich Philharmonic live 4/21/98 Sardana Records CD-105/6
Wand NDR-Sinfonieorchester RCA CD 60365-2-RC .. 62:34 - 26:02 10:24 26:08 --:--
live Lubeck 6/24-26/88 EMI CDC 7 49688
Wand NDR-Sinfonieorchester BMG/RCA CD 62650-2 ... 65:07 - 26:55 10:43 26:52 --:--
live Hamburg 3/7-9/93
Symphony #9
Finale original sketches
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Talmi Oslo Philharmonic 8/28-30/85 Chandos CD 7051-2 ............... --:-- - --:-- --:-- --:-- 15:53
Musical Heritage Soc CD 524649A
Chandos CD 8468/9
Symphony #9
Nowak + Carragan Finale [1984]
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Soudant Utrechts Symphonie Orkest European Premiere 4/16/85 .............. 86:26 - 25:15 10:46 25:25 25:00
Privately issued LP by Utrecht Sym Orch
Talmi Oslo Philharmonic 8/28-30/85 Chandos CD 8468/9 ............... 81:56 - 23:38 10:53 25:18 21:58
Chandos CD 7051-2
Chandos LP DBRD 2010
Musical Heritage Soc CD 524649A
Tsutsumi Shun Yu Kai Orch 5/26/91 Shun Yu Kai CD 19910526
Symphony #9
Nowak + Samale/Mazzuca Finale (Early Draft 1987)
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Inbal Orch of Radio Frankfurt 9/13/86 (finale),10/87 Teldec CD 91446 ... 77:54 - 23:05 10:24 23:41 20:44
Teldec CD0630-141203-2
finale Teldec CD 242 426-2 ............. --:-- - --:-- --:-- --:-- 20:44
Warner New Media CD+Graphis 15004
Rozhdestvensky USSR Ministry of Culture Sym Orch 1988 Melodiya LP C10 31047 ..... --:-- - --:-- --:-- --:-- 25:34
LP has finale only, CD has all JapanBMG Melodiya CD BVCX38015/16 --:-- - --:-- --:-- --:-- 25:29
Samale Katowice National Sym Orch 6/88 Melodram CD MEL 989/1-2 ......... 79:50 - 23:04 9:40 24:32 22:34
Symphony #9
Nowak + Samale/Phillips/Mazzuca/Cohrs Finale [1992]
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Eichhorn Bruckner Orch Linz 4/13-15/92 mvts 1-3 Camerata CD 30CM 275~6 .... 92:32 - 26:18 11:17 24:56 30:11
2/16-17/93 Finale
Wildner Neue Philharmonie, Westfalen 4/20-21&5/12/98 SonArte CD SP13 ..... 82:42 - 23:18 10:57 25:02 23:25
Symphony #9
1903 revised version Lowe[1903], pub. Doblinger
Not authorized by Bruckner. Many changes of dynamics, phrasing, instrumentation and some cuts.
Dave's Details - Jose's Details
Adler Vienna Orchestra 5/52 Spa Records LP 24/25 ............ 49:48 - 13:31 10:22 25:55 --:--
Knappertsbusch Bavarian State Orch live 2/10/58 Music & Arts CD 896 ............. 52:25 - 21:10 10:17 20:58 --:--
Munich Arkadia CD 710
Melodram CD 4.0008 (set)
Seven Seas LP K20C-52
Knappertsbusch Berlin Philharmonic 1/28/50 Tahra CD 208 .................... 55:04 - 22:10 11:02 21:39 --:--
mislabeled 2/4/50 Gli grandi Concerti LP GCL56
mislabeled 2/4/50 Suite CDS 1-6004
mislabeled 2/4/50 Laudis CD 6004
Knappertsbusch Berlin Phil 1/29-30/50 Music & Arts CD 219 fake stereo & flat .. 59:00 - 23:42 11:30 23:39 --:--
Music & Arts CD 1028 mono & on pitch
Complete Boxed sets - see individual listings above for version details
00-9 (with Samale/Mazzuca early draft of 9th finale)
Inbal Orch of Radio Frankfurt 1983-91 Teldec CD 0630-14192-2
0-9
Asahina Various Orchestras (see above)1978-89 JVC CD VICC 40190-99
Barenboim Chicago Symphony Orch 1972-80 DG CD 429 025-2
DG LP 2740-253
Eichhorn/Guschlbauer/Sieghart(see above) Bruckner Orch Linz Camerata CD 431-442
1981 & 1990-95
Haitink Concertgebouw Orch 1963-72 Philips CD 442 040-2 PM9
Philips LP 6717002
Solti Chicago Symphony Orch 1975-95 London/Decca CD 448910-2LC10
1-9
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic live 1976-78 Jean-Jean CD JJ008-019
Asahina Osaka Philharmonic live 1992-95 Pony Canyon CD PCCL00400
Barenboim Berlin Philharmonic Teldec CD 33984-23496-2
Celibidache Munich Philharmonic (#3-9) live 1982-95 EMI CD 5566882
Inbal Orch of Radio Frankfurt 1983-91 Teldec CD 46068
(same as above without #00 & #0)
Jochum Berlin Phil/Bavarian Radio SO 1958-67 DG CD 429 079-2 GX9
DG LPs 2740-136
Jochum Dresden Staatskapelle 1975-80 EMI CD CZS 7 62935 2
Jochum, Eugen & Georg Various orchestras (see above) 1944-84 Tahra CD 162-170
Karajan Berlin Philharmonic 1975-81 DG CD 429-648-2GSE9
DG LP 2740264
Knappertsbusch (#3,4,5,7,8,9 see above) Melodram CD 40008 (set)
Music & Arts CD 1028
Masur Leipzig Gewandhaus 1974-78 Eurodisc CD 69227
Eurodisc LP 301 587-467
Denon CD COCO80100
Various Vienna Philharmonic 1965-74 London LP SOL 1014-28
Japanese London CD set
Wand Kolner Rundfunks Orch 1974-81 RCA CD 60075
EMI 7699262Будьте счастливы!
Zarastro.
"за что?" - спросила МумуСообщение от zarastro
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Пардон, конечно Скровачевский.
Будьте счастливы!
Zarastro.
Я вот слушал девятую Готическую симфонию Брукнера в нашей филармонии. По началу мне казалось, что я слышу увертюру к неизвестной мне опере Вагнера. Видимо совсем уже заслушался Вагнером. НО потом ничего. Стиль Брукнера постепенно стал вырисовываться: вторая часть - скерцо - меня совсем поразила. Да .. надо чаще слушать Брукнера.
Было бы крайне любопытно узнать,кто был тот "гений", что превратил в подражательство Вагнеру произведение,которое напрямую не имеет с ним ничего общего? И,вообще-то говоря,несколько странно,что у предыдущего автора внимания дальше Скерцо не хватило, а жаль- там есть нечто,в полной мере меняющее восприятие жизни... Советую по возможности проверить,желательно не в филармонии(без обид)...
Вообще хотел бы поинтересоваться,много ли поклонников Брукнера среди посетителей данного форума распостраняют свою любовь в равной степени и на Малера( и наоборот)... Вообще сие встречается не так уж часто,что огорчительно ,поскольку первый уважал и любил второго и ,опять-таки ,наоборот,что,мне кажется,дает дополнительный повод воспринимать их по крайней мере в соседстве,или я не прав?
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В области музыки Брукнера я чайник, а вот Малер - это один из моих любимых симфонистов.
А кто же пополняет список любимчиков? Вообще как истовый поклонник Брукнера хочу выразить глубочайшее огорчение фактом "чайничества",но,как известно,это дело поправимое...
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В списке любимчиков ещё несколько имён, но о них промолчу, что бы не показаться странным.Сообщение от Bension
Насчёт Брукнера: исправлюсь.
Брукнер vs Малер
Если Зарастро сюды заглянет: помнится, было дело, в журнале Audiomusic была статья Б.Вальтера про сравнение Малера с Брукнером, а в сети ее нет? Ну не вешать же ее сюда... длинная.
В сети попробую порыться,поскольку целиком сию статью,к стыду моему,не знаю,но выдержки читал.
К тому же отчего отказываться от такой возможности - поместить здесь такой документ - только лишь от его длины? Некоторые здесь и целые дискографии помещают без малейшего смущения
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